| The Apprehension and
Interrogation
Saturday May 24th- Sunday May 25th.
In Life Plus Ninety Nine
years Nathan Leopold describes his activities on Saturday, May 24. He describes
his girlfriend, referred in his autobiography as "Connie", in reality, Susan
Lurrie, and talks of Saturday.
"That Saturday we had a wonderful date. I didn't get home until very late
and so was still asleep at eleven o clock Sunday morning when Dad came
into my room and woke me with the news that two police officers wanted to
see me."
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Susan Lurrie |
Abel Brown |
Loraine Nathan |
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Nathan Leopold was not sleeping late because he'd been out on a late
date. While he had been on a date with Susan Lurrie, it ended early, at 10PM
or so. In fact, it was a double date with Richard Loeb and Loraine Nathan.
Abel Brown also went along. They all went to a Black and Tan at the
corner of 63rd and Cottage Grove. |
After the girls were dropped at home, Leopold and Loeb each went home
and then did what they'd done so often before. They snuck out of their homes
at 2 AM and met up at a restaurant at 51st St. Nathan brought along the Underwood
Portable typewriter. Richard brought the bloody lap robe.
While Leopold drove through the park, Richard Loeb pried the
keys off the typewriter. The keys of the typewriter were disposed in one
lake, the typewriter was sunk in Jackson Park lagoon. The robe was burnt
on the beach.
On Sunday the 25th, Nathan was brought to the State's Attorney's
office. He made a statement about his movements and his familiarity with
Hegewisch swamp. Later Leopold would tell Detective Gortland that he thought
he'd be able to talk his way out of the situation, as he had on
the 25th, and had he known "Loeb would peach", he would have killed
himself and "taken a couple coppers out in the process."
Nathan Leopold was picked up again for questioning on Thursday,
May 29, 1924. The statute of limitations had run out on Leopold and Loeb's
alibi and Nathan did stall as long as he thought he could. He eventually
gave the alibi however, and Richard Loeb was picked up to confirm
it.
They were kept apart, questioned separately.
Loeb, knowing the time limit had expired, did not immediately
confirm the alibi. He claimed he did not remember where he'd been. Leopold
realized this, as he was still being held. Surely the police had tried to
confirm his alibi. He realized Loeb was not confirming it, and used an unawares
newspaper reporter as a messenger. He told the reporter to urge Loeb to "remember
what happened Wednesday." The reporter delivered the cryptic message and
suddenly Loeb "remembered" the alibi.
The alibi was, of course, intentionally impossible to verify. They
had picked up two girls who said their names were Mae and Edna. They dropped
them out on the street when the girls wouldn't "come across". They had dinner
at the Coconut Grove.
Unfortunately, while the State's Attorney held the boys, incriminating
evidence was beginning to stack up. It was all circumstantial, but it just
kept coming. First of course, was Leopold's glasses. He now admitted they
were his but stated they must have fallen from his pocket while birding.
The ransom letter was discovered to have been written on an Underwood portable.
Leopold's house was searched for an Underwood Portable, which he denied owning.
Unfortunately, Elizabeth. the Leopold's maid, told the detectives she'd seen
a portable typewriter in the Leopold library a few weeks ago.
And then there were those pesky newspapermen, Fraternity members
some of them, who'd gone out with Richard Loeb days before searching for
the drugstore to where Mr Franks was supposed to go.
Leopold had kept a study group, and the group had typed up study
notes. Some of the notes were typed on the same machine as the ransom note.
And still Leopold did not budge. He became beligerent. They
wouldn't get him to confess.
The final straw came on Friday evening.
The Leopold's chauffeur sat in the State's Attorneys office.
He had some information that might help the boys. It seems he was working
on Leopold's car on May 21st. It was impossible they were out that day killing
Bobby Franks when Leopold's own car sat in the garage. And he was sure of
the date. His daughter had become sick that same day and they acquired for
her a prescription. It was dated May 21st.
Of course, if Leopold's car was in the garage all day, then
the alibi was a lie. It was this fact that made the walls crumble. Sven knew
they had been out, but in a car that Richard Loeb pulled up in, a greenish
or grey car. (the rented Willys)
"Now Loeb," said Mr Crowe. "You told me that Wednesday, you drove down town
Wednesday, the 25th, (trial transcript indicates the 25th, actual date
was 21st) you drove down town with this young fellow Leopold, in his car.
That is a sport model, it is a red car with a tan top, Willys-Knight?"
"Yes."
"You left the school around eleven o'clock or some time after eleven, between
eleven and noon, that you had lunch at the grill room in Marshall Field's."
"Yes, sir."
"Yes or no?"
"Yes, sir."
"Then you went out to Lincoln Park?"
"Yes sir."
"And all the driving that you did that day was in this car?"
"Yes sir."
"You did not have a car yourself, did you?"
"No."
"You did not drive any that day?"
"No, sir."
"Have you got a car in your family that is a weather beaten green?"
"Well, my mother has a Cadillac, yes, sir."
"A Cadillac. And that is a sort of green?"
"Yes."
"Isn't it a fact that shortly after one o' clock PM you drove up in
that Cadillac, you drove it and Leopold driving the red car drove the car
to his garage and you saw the man that just went out, yes or no?"
"Yes."
"Who was he?"
"Pardon me, yes was to your question about had the man gone out." Loeb stammered.
"Who is he?" Crowe repeated.
"He is Leopold's chauffeur."
"Now isn't it a fact, Wednesday, May 21st, some time between one and a quarter
after one you drove up to the garage, to Leopold's garage, you driving your
mother's car, that green Cadillac, he driving the red car, and that he said
to the chauffeur 'the brakes squeak so much here I want you to fix them'.
He says 'I can put some oil on them and you can use the emergency and if
you are careful you will not run into anybody.' He said 'I would rather run
into somebody than have that squeak,' and he turned the car over to the chauffeur
and got into your car and drove away?"
"No."
"That is not a fact?"
"No."
"If the chauffeur says so he is a liar?"
"Yes."
"Although he has a particular reason for remembering?"
"It is not a fact."
"If the chauffeur took the car and oiled it up, oiled the brakes and
fixed it up that would make the impression-make an impression on his mind,
would it not?"
"Yes."
"If he says that is a fact he is a liar or mistaken?"
"Yes."
"Then if he has an additional reason for remembering the particular day what
would you say to that?"
"I would say he was still a liar or mistaken."
"Didn't you boys come back then somewhere around ten o' clock in the evening
and take that red car out?"
"When is all this?"
"Wednesday, May 21st, the day this boy disappeared, that is not true?"
"No."
"The chauffeur is mistaken?"
"Yes."
"Do you and Leopold belong to the same fraternity?"
"No."
"You are not fraternity brothers?"
"No."
"Did I ask you last night about the letter he wrote you in which he said
it would not do for cocksuckers to fall out?"
"Yes, sir."
"What significance do you attach to that?"
"The fact that he wanted to say, that a rumor had gotten around that he was
a cock sucker."
"What difference would that make?"
"We did everything in our power to avoid any possible scandal in regard to
that thing for two years, since it happened; that was three years ago, when
this rumor started, and for two years we were very careful never to be alone
together in public, seen together any place, or to be alone together any
place where we could be seen. We were careful so when we wanted to go to
a theatre on a particular evening we would be careful to have somebody else
come along, purely and simply on the advice of my brother who had told me
to be careful and to not see too much of Leopold, and if I did to be
sure there was somebody else around."
"Wasn't that an intolerable condition to exist, two fellows that were very
friendly and wanted to be together and could not be together without the
world suspecting they were cocksuckers and you had to have a chaperon all
the time?"
"No, it was not necessary."
"Wouldn't it be much better if you broke off, saying now listen, there
is a lot of suspicion as to our relations here, you better go your way and
I will go mine' and stop? All this talk and let us forget it."
"We never did that, but for quite a while there we saw very little of each
other. It is just due to the fact that this here that we were going
to the University of Chicago and that we were together a great deal and that
there was much more conversation."
The statement was made Friday May 30th, 1:35 AM. The following people were
present; Robert Crowe, Joseph Savage, Milton Smith, Michael Hughes, E.M Allen,
Samuel Ettelson and Nathan Leopold.
"What is your name?"
"Nathan F Leopold Jr."
"Where do you live?"
"4754 Greenwood Avenue."
"How old a man are you?"
"Nineteen."
"And you were nineteen when?"
"19th of February." (transcript says February. Leopold's b day is November
19)
"You were born where?"
"Chicago."
"Who is your father?"
"Nathan F Leopold."
"What is his business?"
"He is president of the Morris Paper House."
"How many brothers in your family?"
"I have two brothers and a cousin who makes his home with us."
"Your two brothers live with you?"
"Yes sir."
"Have you any other brothers or sisters?"
"No, sir."
"Your mother is dead?"
"Yes, sir."
"What are your brother's names?"
"Foreman M and Samuel M."
"And they are both older than you?"
"Yes, sir."
"And both in business?"
"Yes, sir."
"What schools have you gone to?"
"The Spade School."
"What age did you start to school?"
"At the age of six, went to the Spade school. At the age of eight I
transferred to the Douglas school."
"That is a public school?"
"Public school. I will have to figure this out. At eleven I attended the
Harvard School."
Susan Lurrie photo-Chicago Tribune. Abel Brown photo from University
of Chicago yearbook. Lorraine Nathan photo from trial-Hulton Deutsch
collection
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